Remarks made on Brahms symphony nr.3 by Jorma Panula on 12-1-09.
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pagenr. Dover |
bar nr. |
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1. |
161 |
1 |
single f |
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2. |
162 |
11/13 |
keep f, not too early dim. |
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3. |
162 |
A |
a tempo |
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4. |
164 |
31/32 |
compare harmonic structure with 33/34 |
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5. |
164 |
36 |
same tempo |
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6. |
165 |
46 |
poco rit. |
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7 . |
166 |
50 |
cb |
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8. |
166 |
50 |
really break after fourth quarter, some other music |
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9. |
166 |
54 |
misprint in hb I, slur from third quarter over three quarter’s, like fg |
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10. |
166 |
from 53 |
usually confused, take care of melody, more then the other . hrn’s very light in 55 |
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11. |
166 |
57/58 |
vl I, vla legatissimo |
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12. |
167 |
65 |
strings only mf |
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13. |
168 |
69 |
only one forte, 72 piu forte, 75 ff |
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14. |
169 |
E |
ff first beat, f second |
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15. |
170 |
93-98 |
long dim. |
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16. |
171 |
105 |
cb octava, with kfg |
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17. |
172 |
109 |
poco rit, two beats in H, second solo! |
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18. |
172 |
116 |
three beats |
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19. |
172 |
118 |
cresc in pk not too much, covers otherwise the last notes in 119 |
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20. |
173 |
122-123 |
poco rit, like bridge, a tempo 124. |
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21. |
175 |
I |
keep tempo |
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22. |
179 |
174 |
strings f, (see remark 12, change?) |
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23. |
182 |
192 |
cb down up, more power, take cfg too |
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24. |
183 |
195 |
the eightnote sequence in vc, vla, vl II is very nice but not heard |
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25. |
184 |
M |
vl II not heard, col hb II |
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26. |
185 |
212 |
hrn III quite high, take care not too loud |
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27. |
185 |
214 |
hrn IV important entrance, slur to next bar |
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28. |
186 |
217-218 |
hrn’s and trp’s cut, also in 219, then every bar |
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29. |
186 |
from 217 |
ww cut every bar |
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30. |
186 |
219 |
clear stacc last note in strings, subdivide |
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31. |
187 |
Andante |
not too slow |
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32. |
187 |
4 |
echo in strings, also 8 |
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33. |
187 |
11 |
hairpins in cl, but not in 12 |
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34. |
187 |
13 |
connect vla to hb |
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35. |
187 |
16 |
pp in winds, back to p in 18 |
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36. |
188 |
B |
different articulation in vla, compared to theme in beginning with cl |
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37. |
189 |
37 |
cb 8va |
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38. |
189 |
C |
sostenuto |
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39. |
189 |
44 |
strings tied |
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40. |
190 |
52 |
pralltrill on the beat in vl I |
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41. |
190 |
55 |
triplet in vla first time |
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42. |
190 |
56-57 |
strings, winds separé pp |
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43. |
191 |
62 |
litlle tenuto on third beat, then go on D |
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44. |
191 |
71 |
avanti like |
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45. |
192 |
E-85 |
beatiful transition |
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46. |
195 |
100 |
fourth beat sub.pp |
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47. |
196 |
F |
sostenuto |
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48. |
197 |
128 |
not too soft, 130 piu p with more instruments |
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49. |
197 |
133 |
don’t forget envelopes in vl I, II, not in winds |
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50. |
198 |
Poco Allegretto |
beat whole bar |
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48. |
198 |
10 |
dim. in this bar, also vc. |
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49. |
200 |
38-39 |
envelope missing in vla, compare with vl I |
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50. |
201 |
53-57 |
hb is missing dim like fl |
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51. |
201 |
56-57 |
fg is missing dim |
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52. |
202 |
59-61 |
here play as written, very nice |
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53. |
202 |
61-65 |
hb is missing dim.signs again, like fl |
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54. |
202 |
67-69 |
again as written |
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55. |
202 |
70-76 |
vl I sul La |
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56. |
203 |
78-86 |
dim. marks missing in hb, compare with fl, no dim from 81 to 82 |
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57. |
203 |
78-86 |
same in hrn’s |
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58. |
203 |
82-86 |
same in fg |
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59. |
203 |
97 |
show hrn’s, also usually too loud |
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60. |
207 |
149 |
last eight note in ww short |
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61. |
207 |
150 |
short in ww too, misprint |
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62. |
207 |
153 |
third eight note ever short! |
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63. |
207 |
154 |
ww many times too loud, they also should have pp |
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64. |
208 |
6 |
last note senza accent. |
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65. |
210 |
20 |
no gaps |
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66. |
211 |
35 |
too much cresc. in hrn’s and strings, ww are covered |
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67. |
219 |
95 |
in 4 Ungarisch |
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68. |
220 |
G |
cantabile f |
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69. |
221 |
116 |
separate |
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70. |
221 |
119-120 |
no gap |
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71. |
221 |
130 |
tie missing in vc |
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72. |
221 |
131 |
separate in vc, cb, also next bars in all strings |
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73. |
222 |
137 |
listen fg, not too loud, otherwise line in cl is disturbed |
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74. |
222 |
141 |
vl I, II vla, some take separate, I like long |
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75. |
223 |
I |
here is marcato |
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76. |
235 |
227 |
long again trb, vl I, II |
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77. |
240 |
O |
keep tempo |
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78. |
241 |
278 |
here is a little bit slower, before only poco sostenuto |
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79. |
243 |
286-288 |
hear the upper strings |
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80. |
245 |
301 |
div. in vl I, skip last two sixteenth notes, play long notes for melody, also in vl II |
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81. |
246 |
303 |
vl I, vc |
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82. |
246 |
305 |
vla |
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83. |
246 |
308-309 |
pizz div |
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84. |
246 |
308 |
everybody must hear rit in pk. |
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