Remarks made on Brahms symphony nr.2 by Jorma Panula on 12-1-09.
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pagenr. Dover |
bar nr. |
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1. |
87 |
13 |
CB plays D sharp too |
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2. |
88 |
20 |
imitation in woodwinds of bar 18 |
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3. |
88 |
1 before A |
don’t forget corni |
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4. |
89 |
A |
poco avanti |
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5. |
89 |
from 9 after A |
remark sequence vlI, vl2, fl+hb, vc+cb |
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6. |
90 |
73 |
remark relation cl with vla+vc in 75 |
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7 . |
90 |
78 |
strings, cl, fg staccato |
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8. |
90 |
78 |
legato missing in vl I and vc. |
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9. |
91 |
84 |
I hear many times legato in vla+vc! |
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10. |
91 |
91 |
hr and pk short |
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11. |
91 |
94 |
vl2 ! |
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12. |
91 |
98 |
hb very important |
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13. |
92 |
108 |
long notes in vl1+vl2 back for ww |
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14. |
92 |
109 |
long notes in ww back for vl1+vl2 |
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15. |
92 |
112 |
same |
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16. |
92 |
E |
rythm very clear between upper and lower strings |
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17. |
93 |
136 |
poco f seldom |
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18. |
94 |
144 |
show changes in harmony |
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19. |
95 |
148 |
imitation vl I, fl.149 vl I 150 |
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20. |
95 |
152 |
really big break between first and second quarter |
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21. |
95 |
170 |
fg |
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22. |
97 |
180 |
remark no hairpins in vla+vc |
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23. |
97 |
190 |
vc tie missing |
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24. |
97 |
194 |
stacc. starts in vla |
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25. |
98 |
195 |
articulation missing in vl.II |
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26. |
98 |
196 |
articulation missing in vl.II+vla |
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27. |
98 |
from 197 |
vl I, vl II, vla short |
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28. |
98 |
from 197 |
vc+cb usually too early too loud, f in 204 |
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29. |
99 |
212 |
theme in vc+cb should not be disturbed by too loud vl1, specially bar 214, take mf for vl I |
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30. |
99 |
G |
trb III less on 3rd quarter, space for trb II, same next bar trb II |
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31. |
99 |
215 |
vl I dot missing |
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32. |
100 |
238 |
no accent on 1 |
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33. |
100 |
239 |
new downbow on second quarter |
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34. |
100 |
244 |
vl II vla div. |
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35. |
101 |
254 |
vc stacc continue in other strings |
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36. |
101 |
263 |
vl I vc upbow second quarter |
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37. |
101 |
269 |
vl II start upbow for sub p |
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38. |
102 |
277 |
vla upbow |
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39. |
105 |
349 |
hrn’s sounds longer therefore written quarternote |
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40. |
106 |
359 |
hrn III, IV ! |
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41. |
112 |
477 |
not too slow |
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42. |
114 |
509 |
arpeggio vl I,II, vla usually not! also remark dissonance vl I,II cl second quarternote |
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43. |
114 |
510 |
continue arpeggio’s |
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44. |
114 |
513 |
no more arpeggio’s, div. |
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45. |
115 |
3 |
vc non legato |
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46. |
116 |
18 |
fluente |
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47. |
116 |
27 |
pk |
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48. |
117 |
36 |
cl also sub.pp, like hb, adjust fg too. |
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49. |
118 |
44 |
hrn’s stacc |
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50. |
119 |
55 |
fp missing in vl I II |
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51. |
120 |
61 |
continue dim in cl. |
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52. |
120 |
62 |
vc cb p on fourth beat |
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53. |
121 |
67 |
pizz. in vla vc piu forte |
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54. |
121 |
73 |
vl I II sub. p |
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55. |
122 |
80 |
long break |
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56. |
122 |
86 |
cut between first and second beat |
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57. |
122 |
86 |
trp’s only two accents |
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58. |
123 |
F |
p missing in strings |
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59. |
124 |
96 |
dim. not too early |
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60. |
124 |
103 |
last chords separé |
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61. |
125 |
1 |
third quarter longer in hb, tie is missing |
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62. |
126 |
23 |
articulation missing in winds |
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63. |
128 |
from B |
sempre p, no cresc. |
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64. |
129 |
107 |
different articulation |
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65. |
130 |
130-131 |
no accents. |
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66. |
133 |
198 |
very seldom right dynamic |
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67. |
133 |
206 |
cresc al p |
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68. |
134 |
225 |
poco sostenuto |
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69. |
134 |
228 |
hb, then fl, next bar cl. |
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70. |
134 |
235 |
show hrn III, IV |
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71. |
134 |
236 |
dim in winds, make sure they stop |
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72. |
134 |
237 |
sub.p |
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73. |
135 |
1 |
take care of trp. |
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74. |
135 |
9 |
dot missing in vl I, II, vla |
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75. |
135 |
11 |
same |
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76. |
139 |
76-77 |
poccissimo rall. al largamente |
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77. |
143 |
F |
separé |
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78. |
144 |
from 158 |
hrn’s too loud |
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79. |
144 |
160 |
even more pp in hrn’s |
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80. |
145 |
175 |
vc have page turn |
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81. |
146 |
188 |
seldom you hear vl II, vla |
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82. |
147 |
I |
quarter equals triplet, not too slow |
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83. |
148 |
3 after K |
vla high voice |
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84. |
149 |
234 |
cb 8va |
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85. |
149 |
240 |
trp again |
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86. |
150 |
252 |
cb too loud, no cresc. |
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87. |
154 |
326 |
stacc. in fl, cl. seldom heard |
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88. |
157 |
362 |
cresc. from pp to ff in one bar! |
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89. |
157 |
375 |
tempo |
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90. |
158 |
from 5 before P |
legatissimo |
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91. |
158 |
385 |
last quarternote non. leg. |
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92. |
158 |
5 after P |
start mf |
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93. |
159 |
397 |
trb, 399 even more, 401 even more, very high, seldom you can hear this, alto tombone better, if not take 2nd trumpet too. |
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94. |
159 |
405 |
make space in long notes for the eight’s notes |
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95. |
160 |
416 |
vl I play second half of the bar with vl II |
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96. |
160 |
419 |
missing dots in fl |
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97. |
160 |
421 |
hrn II and trp.II difficult if too fast |
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98. |
160 |
423 |
faster from here |
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